Comments on: Spark: Video of LDS Security Taking Down Gay Couple. http://www.mindonfire.com/2009/08/01/spark-video-of-lds-security-taking-down-gay-couple/ Religion, SF, and Other Speculative Fictions. Thu, 09 Feb 2012 18:55:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Elaine http://www.mindonfire.com/2009/08/01/spark-video-of-lds-security-taking-down-gay-couple/comment-page-1/#comment-24026 Elaine Sun, 02 Aug 2009 23:53:31 +0000 http://www.mindonfire.com/?p=1715#comment-24026 I'm not really surprised that any of this happened...that the security guards did this, and that the church is lying about it. It brings to mind a documentary I saw on cable a few weeks ago which followed a group of gay and lesbians who took a bus trip around the country a few years ago, visiting Christian-run colleges and universities that have anti-gay policies with a goal of at least starting a dialogue that will make it easier for gay and lesbian students at those schools. As portrayed in the portion of the documentary I saw, BYU was the only place where students actually came out and yelled and screamed hateful things at the participants in the tour. At other schools, they were often not greeted with open arms, but discourse generally remained quiet if not exactly civil. Also, if I recall correctly, BYU was the only place where participants in a non-violent demonstration were arrested as soon as they stepped foot on campus. I just want to know what the Mormons are so freaking afraid of. I’m not really surprised that any of this happened…that the security guards did this, and that the church is lying about it.

It brings to mind a documentary I saw on cable a few weeks ago which followed a group of gay and lesbians who took a bus trip around the country a few years ago, visiting Christian-run colleges and universities that have anti-gay policies with a goal of at least starting a dialogue that will make it easier for gay and lesbian students at those schools.

As portrayed in the portion of the documentary I saw, BYU was the only place where students actually came out and yelled and screamed hateful things at the participants in the tour. At other schools, they were often not greeted with open arms, but discourse generally remained quiet if not exactly civil. Also, if I recall correctly, BYU was the only place where participants in a non-violent demonstration were arrested as soon as they stepped foot on campus.

I just want to know what the Mormons are so freaking afraid of.

]]> By: Sunday in Outer Blogness: Obscure Rules Edition! | Main Street Plaza http://www.mindonfire.com/2009/08/01/spark-video-of-lds-security-taking-down-gay-couple/comment-page-1/#comment-24025 Sunday in Outer Blogness: Obscure Rules Edition! | Main Street Plaza Sun, 02 Aug 2009 15:55:44 +0000 http://www.mindonfire.com/?p=1715#comment-24025 [...] of commentary on the police video of the Main Street Plaza gay kiss. See here, here, here, here, here, plus Austin Cline’s related piece on police abuse of [...] [...] of commentary on the police video of the Main Street Plaza gay kiss. See here, here, here, here, here, plus Austin Cline’s related piece on police abuse of [...]

]]> By: amelia http://www.mindonfire.com/2009/08/01/spark-video-of-lds-security-taking-down-gay-couple/comment-page-1/#comment-24024 amelia Sun, 02 Aug 2009 06:45:25 +0000 http://www.mindonfire.com/?p=1715#comment-24024 there's going to be a nationwide kiss-in, with an event in irvine, on august 15. too bad i'll be out of town... http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=124199360752 that's the facebook page. and i'm thoroughly disgusted by the church's behavior in this whole incident. there’s going to be a nationwide kiss-in, with an event in irvine, on august 15. too bad i’ll be out of town…

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=124199360752

that’s the facebook page.

and i’m thoroughly disgusted by the church’s behavior in this whole incident.

]]> By: Jensie http://www.mindonfire.com/2009/08/01/spark-video-of-lds-security-taking-down-gay-couple/comment-page-1/#comment-24020 Jensie Sat, 01 Aug 2009 20:43:06 +0000 http://www.mindonfire.com/?p=1715#comment-24020 Christians, my ass! Christians, my ass!

]]> By: Craig http://www.mindonfire.com/2009/08/01/spark-video-of-lds-security-taking-down-gay-couple/comment-page-1/#comment-24019 Craig Sat, 01 Aug 2009 18:28:19 +0000 http://www.mindonfire.com/?p=1715#comment-24019 I was disgusted watching this (a few days ag0). The violence they security guards use was incredibly unnecessary. As of now, the police report, original statements of the security guards to police, this video and the statements of the victims are all pretty much in accordance, in opposition to the church's statements a week after the incident. More and more evidence that the church outright lied/fabricated their story to make themselves seem the victim (yet again) in the fight against those evil homosexuals who are forcing their nasty lifestyle on good, good-fearing family men. *puke* It just boggles my mind that a church whose self-image is so incredibly righteous can be so fantastically hypocritical regarding its own beliefs about morality and telling the truth. How do they justify it to themselves? Do they even realise that they're taking hypocrisy to a whole new level? What make me even more frustrated is that most members of the church never see any of it. They believe everything that the church issues, regardless of whether it contradicts all available evidence (even video). The church wouldn't lie, therefore it doesn't, therefore even if 99% of the evidence is against the church, it has to be everyone else who is wrong. They're not going to be able to keep this up for long though, I think. Not with the information availability of the internets and the ever growing group of people who challenge and criticise the church at every turn. I was disgusted watching this (a few days ag0). The violence they security guards use was incredibly unnecessary. As of now, the police report, original statements of the security guards to police, this video and the statements of the victims are all pretty much in accordance, in opposition to the church’s statements a week after the incident.

More and more evidence that the church outright lied/fabricated their story to make themselves seem the victim (yet again) in the fight against those evil homosexuals who are forcing their nasty lifestyle on good, good-fearing family men.

*puke*

It just boggles my mind that a church whose self-image is so incredibly righteous can be so fantastically hypocritical regarding its own beliefs about morality and telling the truth. How do they justify it to themselves? Do they even realise that they’re taking hypocrisy to a whole new level?

What make me even more frustrated is that most members of the church never see any of it. They believe everything that the church issues, regardless of whether it contradicts all available evidence (even video). The church wouldn’t lie, therefore it doesn’t, therefore even if 99% of the evidence is against the church, it has to be everyone else who is wrong.

They’re not going to be able to keep this up for long though, I think. Not with the information availability of the internets and the ever growing group of people who challenge and criticise the church at every turn.

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