Comments on: Thomas Monson is Kind of a Jerk.

By: Goldarn

Goldarn — Fri, 16 Dec 2011 17:13:38 +0000

The first time I heard Thomas Monson speak in person (while I was at BYU) I got up and walked out because of the mocking he did of those “in the world” who disagreed with him and/or “the church.” The crowd ate it up as far as I could tell, but I couldn’t handle it.

By: Karen

Karen — Wed, 14 Dec 2011 05:30:51 +0000

Sorry, lama21 didn’t answer one of your other questions.
Everyone that wants to help clean up the LDS church should understand the LDS scriptures since they prophesy the need for the church to get cleansed!

Nope, God is not going to clean up our messes for us as prophetically stated in D&C 64 although spiritually lazy people would desire that to be true.

“For it shall come to pass that the inhabitants of Zion (where the pure in heart dwell) shall judge all things pertaining to Zion. And liars and hypocrites shall be proved by them, and they who are NOT apostles and prophets (but proclaim themselves to be) shall be known! And even the (LDS) bishop, and his counselors…shall be condemned…” (D&C 64:38-40).

By: Karen

Karen — Wed, 14 Dec 2011 05:15:06 +0000

Hi lama21,
You make me laugh and I appreciate your wanting to learn! Thanks.
Celestial Sealings referred to the continual belief in polygamy which is evident by the Temple practice where men can be sealed eternally to as many women as they can (usually due to death or divorce~ they can be sealed to all of them). While women, on the other hand, can only be sealed to one man and must get permission from a divorced husband to get unsealed to him. Many times, mean exhusband’s won’t give this permission. Celestial Sealings is not a tea, although it would be nice. ; }
For Mauricio: I’ve read the Book of Mormon many times and know that the original Book of Mormon (altered at the 2nd printing in 1837 by the learned men) restores the “plain and precious” truths of the identity of God as still contained in Alma 11:23-40, Ether 3:14, and Mosiah 15:1-5.
If you understand 1 Ne 13 then you know that there are THREE “Great and ABOMINABLE” churches listed with the MOST G&A church aka the LDS church having taken out the plain and precious truth about the identity of God.
It will be getting back to the original Book of Mormon that will assist with the prophesied Cleansing of the Lord’s House (D&C 112, 124, 64). Polygamy will be known as always having been an abomination justified by Joseph Smith’s failure to control his “carnal desires” as he committed adultery (D&C 3:1-11). Masonry will be known as the Secret Combinations warned of in the Book of Mormon and practiced currently in ALL LDS Temples (Moses 5:29)
Early church history shows that all men (Blacks) and all women held the priesthood simply upon Baptism during the early pure years of the church.
And many scriptures will prove that Jesus IS God the Eternal Father aka only ONE God!
Thomas S. Monson is a Jerk as all the leaders are in real life. I’ve met three of the prophets and talked with them and my husband knows all of them (apostles) and knows what they are really like behind the scenes… They are NOT Good and when they start repenting (Ezra T. Benson, Harold B Lee, Howard W. Hunter) they get “taken out” by the other “wolves in sheep’s clothing”
We are the “Gentiles” and the Book of Mormon is a warning to the Mormons! And a second witness of God from the “other sheep” Christ taught after His Resurrection (John 10:16)
Cheers!

By: lama21

lama21 — Tue, 13 Dec 2011 01:23:26 +0000

and do yawl drink tea in your temple houses? i’m learning.

By: lama21

lama21 — Tue, 13 Dec 2011 01:21:55 +0000

oh, i see you responded (yeeehawww!)

ok, wifey says i can type a little bit longer.

oh, is mr monson a ‘douche’? (my grandson’s words for people he don’t like – i try not to have them follow me with all my history of cussin’ so much, so badd).

well, i was reading up on him on wikipedia.org (same grandson showed me it and WOW! it’s got lotsa stuff!) and i learnt he went to school at University of Utah. he seems pretty big-wig.

mr. john – do you think each of our own public images are at odds with our personal character?

maybe he has just been pretending that he likes the power of being a public leader (same with mitt rommey if you ask me).

i think if he’s a true old man (like me), he is carrying a burden i wouldn’t want, but i’d be too chicken to admit it (especially if you guys really are at about 15 million mormons around teh world). Hell – i have trouble admitting to my wife that i prefer corn on the cob to cut corn.

i don’t wanna be mean if mr. thomas monson is mean enough already.

help me out, john. i’m learning alots.

By: John

John — Tue, 13 Dec 2011 01:01:43 +0000

lama21, Thomas Monson is the current prophet of the LDS church. He is the voice of God to millions of Mormons. A certain portion of his power is linked to his public image, which is at odds with his personal character. Normally I would be all about trying to forgive folks their private character faults, but this post is written as a public criticism of a public leader who wields tremendous political power on issues I care greatly about.

By: lama21

lama21 — Tue, 13 Dec 2011 00:48:24 +0000

PS-is Celestial Sealings an herbal tea you all drink in the mormon temple houses? i don’t get it.

By: lama21

lama21 — Tue, 13 Dec 2011 00:47:50 +0000

wow! really smart people on here.

john and karen – do you think we can just forgive mr. moron monson, and if he is gonna get punished – let god do the punishing?

i think god will make sure his wife gets to slap him as many times as she likes in life after.

well, help me out folks.

By: Karen

Karen — Mon, 12 Dec 2011 18:09:54 +0000

Mauricio depicts the PRIDE of the elitism of the church, whereas God wants us to be as children and honors the janitor who cleans up the messes with a pure heart greater than a false Profit, Apostle and even Bishop and their Counselors. From D&C 64 we find out that it will be the members of the church who will vote against our false leaders who need to be removed if they don’t repent.
When the church is cleansed there will be NO polygamy with “Celestial Sealings” in the temples or even the belief in it as polygamy is an “abomination unto the Lord” no matter who practices it as clearly explained in Jacob 2:23-24 . Polygamy is the reason the Nephites were destroyed and never made one “Mother in Israel” happy as declared by Jedidiah Grant and Brigham Young who threatened them with “Blood Atonement” aka murder if they didn’t stop justifiably complaining about sharing their adulterous, carnally-minded husband with other women. The Lord WARNED Joseph Smith against following his “own will and CARNAL DESIRES” or he would FALL which is what happened. The condemnation of the church because of our “follies and abominations” is stated by God in D&C 124. The church has never repented of any of our abominable beliefs and practices. Masonry is another of our abominable practices complete with Satanic blood oaths and consecrations to the church and not to God or country. God seriously hates our secret names, secret handshakes, and Masonic rituals. Prior to 1990 we had to do the actions of the Penalty which was to slit our throat, cut out our hearts and intestines. This blood oath is “still assumed” today without these actions as they are afraid too many more will wake up. Read Moses 5:29 to see that Masonry started with Satan making Cain swear a blood oath to keep secrets prior to the murder of Abel. Our LDS Temple SECRETS are in line with the Secret Combinations warned against in the BoM. I read from the original Book of Mormon because the BoM was seriously altered in 1837 when the third MOST Great and Abominable Church took out the plain and precious truth of the identity of God. However, Alma 11:23-40, Ether 3:14, and Mosiah 15:1-5 did not get altered and clearly explain that Jesus Christ IS God the Eternal Father since He incarnated to this earth as a man with a Soul while His Spirit aka Heavenly Father remained in Heaven.
A great cleansing is happening and those prideful “saints” who now reside in the “great and spacious building” mocking those of us who know the word of God will become sons and daughters of perdition because they do not know the identity of God and “deny the HG”.
Its just that simple. D&C 64, 112 both show that the church needs cleansing. Go read your scriptures in new light without ego or elitism and recognize Tommie Monson as a false egotistical, whinny little boy who is mean to his wife and never of God. I believe Gail Smith who testifies that Tommy as a Bishop propositioned her and stated in anger when she refused his advances, “Don’t you know that I’m slated to become a Prophet”? This was due to the “pathway” of those who can be facades and loyal to the church and not to God.
These scriptures warn us all to not turn our other cheek but to learn the truth and to know God!

By: lama21

lama21 — Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:25:24 +0000

speaking of wifey – i snuck out of bed to type all this. my mind has been on fire, sure! gettin back in bed so she doesn’t get too worried – you know how they are. thank you, mr. john for learning me lots of stuff.

By: lama21

lama21 — Mon, 12 Dec 2011 10:21:30 +0000

who’s mr. thomas monson?

well, ain’t nobody perfect. and if he’s some leader of a church, he’s probably really not all too comfortable with it. that’ s hard.

john, let’s give this guy a break and move on to more intellechual stuff. i always liked mormons – they’re kinda boring, and i’m sure lotsa crazy stuff has been said about this crazy lot that may not be true, or is true.

but – maybe we shouldn’t care about that, and just continue to be good, pray to God, be good to our wives (’cause believe me – i have had years of guilt, and i wouldn’t want any more weak men to go through that). girls are stronger than us. we need them. my poor wife – she’s too good for me. and us dumb ass hats quickly forget that…but these good ladies (not the whore kind who keeps thinking they can offer us something’ better’ —not like those kind on that tv show ‘mad mens’–those are straight up whores!)..

the good ladies stay faithful to us asshats. well – maybe mr. tom moonshine is going throuh that phase of being mean because he hasn’t found his true soul yet and his wife is the only person who can stand him as a full human. and on top of that he’s some head haunch of a church – i do not envy that.

so, lets be like me wife – and let personality flaws go. i think we can all call off the dogs – ain’t nobody perfect.

but we can love one anothers like jesus said.

but i have a question – does the mormo church likes gays? i been hearing no they dont. but i don’t think the local mormons here would ever treat them bad – mormons are nice folk. are they being fake about being nice folk?

help me out, mr. john. i’m learning lots reading your blog.

By: Karen

Karen — Wed, 07 Dec 2011 23:03:08 +0000

The leaders of the LDS church are very human, but as you can tell, the sheep look at the leaders as perfect. There are anything but perfect as they are prideful and justify stealing from the wealthy member’s assets due to the serious (satanic) oath and consecration of “all your time, talent, and all that you do possess”. D&C 124 states that the church is condemned for its “follies and abominations” such as polygamy, Masonry (requires a secret oath which Jesus said “comes of evil”), altering the Book of Mormon. My husband and I have a mission from God thanks to a profound NDE preceded by his mother’s three prophetic dreams to restore the original Book of Mormon which was significantly altered with the second printing in 1837 taking out the identity of God as preserved in Alma 11:23-40, Ether 3:14, Mosiah 15:1-5. Also, the original Book of Mormon exposes the extreme corruption of the LDS leaders aka “money changers”. We have seen untimely heart attacks or accidents, for example, Harold B. Lee ~went into the hospital for a check up & has a
heart attack”, ETB~ called us a “condemned church” and never spoke again, Howard W. Hunter talked about the importance of callling leaders to repentance ~ and never spoke again (~all repenting and taken out) and Alan Barnes ~ son-in-law to Hinckley and confessed to FBI about signing Olympic bribery checks, “Silent Witness” SLTrib). The path to these top positions is the ability to screw the members as illustrated by Pres. Kimball. He was the banker, insurance man, and church leader. When he was called as a apostle he thought it was for real and so he went back to all the farmers he had cheated (flood insurance payment) and then wrote “Miracle of Forgiveness” to stop the truth of his corrupt “multiple hats”.
BTW, Monson and the Mormon Mafia as I call them earn millions serving on bank boards, insurance boards, etc. and when do they teach about repentance and Christ? Its all about the money and tithing and getting married to breed more tithe-payers for their “great and spacious buildings” like the 5 billion dollar mall in SLC. I have specific examples of their theft, murders, lies, etc. (Danite Warriors ilk)

By: Mauricio

Mauricio — Wed, 09 Feb 2011 20:43:20 +0000

Jonathan: I wish you all the best for a rich and fulfilling life. PS Just a little about me: I spent my mission in Chile and now feel practically like a born-again Chilean, i.e., I love to speak Spanish, and within the last ten years have birded in Chile, Bolivia, Peru, Mexico, Guatemal, Belize, Nicaragua, Costa Rica and Cuba, and serve on the missionary committee in my Ward.

By: Jonathan Blake

Jonathan Blake — Tue, 08 Feb 2011 23:41:01 +0000

Mauricio, you’ve misjudged those of us who have read Moroni 10 innumerable times, applied its promise diligently, and came to different conclusions than you. Personally, I came to a point in my life where I determined that I would follow the answer I got no matter what. The silence was deafening. The only conclusion I could draw was that the BoM is not true.

By: Mauricio

Mauricio — Tue, 08 Feb 2011 21:22:19 +0000

Judge and disrespect a person if you like, but until you have read The Book of Mormon and have diligently applied the promise found in Moroni 10:3,4,5, you’ll never know for certain whether TSM is a prophet called by God, or nothing more than a charlatan. Nevertheless, regardless of his title, judge him with the same vigor you wish to be judged.

By: Karen

Karen — Tue, 28 Dec 2010 00:22:25 +0000

http://www.mormonstruth.org is the web site that has the list of Monson’s income on the first page after the introduction.

By: Karen

Karen — Tue, 28 Dec 2010 00:21:03 +0000

My website lists how much money these “money changers” receive for serving on bank and insurance boards, etc. They are all prideful and do NOT have spiritual experiences. They have hundreds of lawyers (over 100 at Kirton and McKonkie alone including the son of Thomas S. Monson; Thomas L. Monson) to fight lawsuits filed against them for illegal theft of member’s (and other’s) assets through Zion’s Bank, Barrick Gold, etc. justified due to the Masonic blood oath and consecration of all “time, talent, and all ye do possess…and to not tell about the SECRETS of the temple” “or suffer your life to be taken”
http://www.stopzion.com
http://www.bridgingtruth.com

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By: Max

Max — Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:04:14 +0000

to ron,

do you have any documentation or source confirming Mr. Monson’s home in Maui. I’d really be interested in seeing it.

By: ron

ron — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:00:18 +0000

Mr Monson is trying to sell a home in Maui right now for 8 million dollars!!!!!. How does a leader of the church get enough dough to buy an 8 million dollar vacation home. I am supicious as heck.