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Meditation v. Prayer

Posted by xJane on November 13th, 2008 at 5:51 pm · 8 Comments

I had my first final today. In preparation, I spent some time on the library’s balcony, enjoying the view, the silence, and the not-school-ness. I also spent some time in the library’s prayer room. (I also spent some time watching the Shiba Inu Puppy Cam, but this post is not about that.)

Hanging out in these two places reminded me of all the praying I did when I was still pretending to be Catholic. It was boring, tedious, stressful, painful, and made me fall asleep. We prayed the rosary as a family when I was kid: we all knelt in a circle with beads dangling from our hands and intoning like zombies. This was the worst prayer for me. Kneeling on the ground was certainly not good for my knees, but even seiza would have been better than right-angle kneeling. Then there are the prayers. It’s deceptively simple: 10 Hail Marys (which come in two parts, one starting “Hail Mary” and the other starting “Holy Mary”—I constantly got them confused), an Our Father, a Glory Be…if you’re lucky. Then there are the prayers that only ever come up in the rosary, at the beginning and the end. One’s a creed, but it’s just different enough from the creed said in mass to mess you up. And you have to lead the rest of the group; that means, you say half the prayer and they respond. That means, if you’re the youngest or just don’t know the prayers as well, everybody knows when you mess up. If that weren’t enough, the prayers said between each decade (named for approximately how long it feels like you’ve been kneeling) change every day. By the time the rosary was over (50 years later, by carbon dating of my asleep feet), I wanted to crawl into a hole and hide of embarrassment, kill myself from the pain in my knees and the pins and needles in my feet, or just join a convent so I could take a vow of silence and never be caught saying the wrong words to a prayer again.

Non-public prayer was better, although I didn’t do a whole lot of it. I’ve had trouble falling asleep my whole life, but discovered in middle school that a few Hail Marys would put me out right quick. If I attended a public rosary today, they’d probably think I suffered from narcolepsy. The praying you did silently but in public (like after Communion, or before Mass) was pretty easy: a vacant stare toward the front of the church afforded a good opportunity to re-count the bricks in the wall, the pipes on the organ, the ceiling tiles on the ceiling, and, if I was lucky, the blades of a spinning fan (they’re harder to count while spinning). If I was feeling particularly pious, I’d close my eyes, or bow my head and let my imagination wander. I read a lot of fantasy books as a kid, including some filled with real gods (you know, the ones who answer prayers, whose priests can cause mystical happenings) and magic. I often went here and wondered what it would be like if I had a real god. This usually ended with me doing fantastical feats in church, to the amazement of all the parishioners; until a great chasm opened in the center of the aisle and I was swallowed whole by it.

Meditation, on the other hand, I learned in Judo. I learned to kneel in seiza before class started and simply breathe. I learned to become more aware of the things around me or block them out completely. I learned the meditation of sweeping the mats before practice, the one-mindedness of a really good practice, when no thoughts flit across your consciousness and your body moves like you think it should, unimpeded by gravity or other trivial considerations.

I went to yoga, where I learned the many kinds of breathing: the ones to calm and to excite; to cleanse mind and to cleanse lungs. I learned how stretching and deliberate motion put me in a place of peace and a feeling of unity with myself (not body and mind, but simply me).

I learned that hiking, walking on a rocky beach, and gardening brought the same peace, one-ness of mind, and relaxation as judo and yoga. I learned that many activities could be meditative, especially the mundane.

I learned that sometimes, words help focus the mind and developed or discovered “prayers” that helped me, rather than the ones I already knew would simply distract me (or put me to sleep). I learned that beads kept my body focused just as words focused my mind.

In short, I learned that meditation makes me a more complete person, calms me down, and helps me get through this stressful life intact. Something the prayer of my childhood could never have hoped to do.

Tags: Getting over Religion · Meditation & Prayer · Peace; conflict resolution. · Religion · Ritual · Spiritual Progressives

8 responses so far ↓

  • 1 John // Nov 14, 2008 at 10:19 am

    Thanks, xJane, for this–I’m just starting my meditation practice back up, and this post is wonderfully validating.

  • 2 Jonathan // Nov 14, 2008 at 8:30 pm

    I’ve actually started taking up the practice of meditation recently too – and like yourself, it involves in some cases the practice of thinking about a subject carefully in a non-litany, free-form fashion. A good book often gets my thoughts flowing. I read a sentence that strikes me, I put the book down, and just mull over a single thought for half an hour.

    For me, connecting with God often starts with this kind of meditation because my thoughts naturally drift towards involving him in the thinking process and a conversation of sorts often ensues.

  • 3 xJane // Nov 15, 2008 at 12:59 pm

    I know that my experience of prayer is very colored by my experience of the religion that taught me to pray. I do, however, believe that meditation is a good supplement to even a prayerful life. My sister is into yoga but suffered from doubt since it is considered by some to be a “heathen” practice. I bought her a copy of Prayer of Heart and Body: Meditation and Yoga As Christian Spiritual Practice, which I hope has helped overcome her reservations. I’ve additionally often encountered word-meditations (like “OM”) for the Christian: focusing on English/Latin words of meaning (often “Jesus” or “Love”).

    I’m now learning about “prayer” in the legal context as a request for help from a person of power. While I’m sure a Personal Deity likes to be addressed personally for help, I also find that prayers-of-worship/joy* as well as prayers-of-thanks have their place. There are not a lot of these taught to a young Catholic (although they can be found, like the Glory Be), which encourages a paternalistic relationship with the Divine, where the Human-Child cannot grow up to have any other than a Father-Child relationship. (There are some fantastic! essays about growing into a friend relationship with the Divine.)

    * my favorite, which I think during my morning sun salutation (when I need to keep my mind focused), and which I found in a book which proclaimed it to have been a prayer to Ra translated from the walls of temples: “I am born anew upon your rising! Beautiful are your creations! Beautiful is all you have made!”

  • 4 Jonathan // Nov 17, 2008 at 7:53 am

    I also find that prayers-of-worship/joy* as well as prayers-of-thanks have their place. There are not a lot of these taught to a young Catholic…

    Really? How discouraging!! I can’t imagine being a young and only being encouraged to talk to God when you are in trouble, and not in a friendship fashion. Kind of a cold relationship.

    That kind of sends the message to a believer that God only cares about you if you’re in trouble, otherwise, leave him alone. And when you’re prayers don’t get answered (which happens frequently), apparently he doesn’t even care if you ARE in trouble. So what’s the point of praying at all?

    ugh… religion.

  • 5 Denine // Nov 29, 2008 at 10:03 pm

    I especially liked your descriptions of what your judo meditations taught you. It reminded me of “Before Enlightenment, chop wood, carry water. After Enlightenment, chop wood, carry water.”

    Sometimes a phrase like that can really help me to focus my meditations. For the past 10+ years one of my tougher ones has been “There is no ‘us’ or ‘them.’ We are all ‘us.’”

    One of my favorite parts of Quaker spiritual practice is when someone rises from the silence to speak, and what is spoken touches a spark in you, and your experience of the Silence simply but extraordinarily flowers. It’s like getting a deep soul-massage.

  • 6 Christina // Feb 15, 2009 at 11:24 pm

    Dear xJane,
    I am sorry that your memories of your childhood Catholic prayers are so negative for you. I, too, was raised Catholic, and we too, said the rosary as a family, but my memories are wonderful! I am still a practicing Catholic today, and contrary to popular belief, practicing Catholics DO have a very beautiful, intimate, personal relationship with God. And we don’t only pray when we “want” something; we pray to ask, to give thanks, to praise, to ask for help for others, to tell God that we love Him, and on and on. The rosary is one of the most powerful prayers that exists. If you were to start praying it again, but this time with the understanding that you are talking to God, and using the meditation from each decade to focus on the life of Jesus, and truly enter into the meaning of the prayer, I’m sure you would find it very satisfying, peaceful and meaningful. The Catholic faith is beautiful, her prayers are vast and meaningful and peaceful, and being nourished by the body and blood of Jesus at the Eucharist during Mass is the highest form of prayer and the closest we can be to God while here on earth. I strongly recommend that you take another look at the Catholic faith, through the eyes of an adult who can comprehend the true meaning of the faith. I will keep you in my prayers. God bless you.

  • 7 xJane // Feb 16, 2009 at 6:24 pm

    Christina, I’m so glad that you enjoy your relationship and communion with the Divine. Most religions do have adherents who enjoy a “beautiful, intimate, personal relationship” with the version of the Divine espoused by that religion—I’m glad you are one of those. I’m also intrigued that you find that the rosary gives you time to talk to God—if anyone, you’re talking to Mary (who then talks to God for you). I dislike the intermediary notions: that I can’t talk directly to God myself; but I do like some of the concepts of Mary as a female Divine Person.

    I’m trying not to take offense at your last few sentences. I may well have looked at the Catholic faith through the eyes of a child when I was a child but I assure you that this is not the only way I have. I have looked at it through the eyes of a heretic, an historian, a feminist, and one desperate to believe in the religion of my family (oh! how much easier that would make my life). There is nothing there for me but misogyny and paternalism. I respect the people who can find happiness and joy there and I often wish I was one of them. I follow closely the RC Womenpriests movement and, maybe, someday they will be my path back to “Mother Church”. Until then, I will calm my mind with meditation and, when I die, I will return to the earth that bore me to nourish the next.

  • 8 John // Feb 16, 2009 at 11:30 pm

    xJane, I know that Christina means well, but I think that there is a telling contrast in the difference between the language she uses and the language that you use. In this post and thread, you are speaking entirely from your own experience. Christina’s comment begins with personal experience then expands to ‘we’ and then more authoritative and prescriptive phrasing.

    It’s difficult to not take this as patronizing. I wish that more interfaith conversations could follow your example of speaking from your own experience.

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